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 Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: LOL LOL Prove it! The Mating Call of the Redneck America |
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effacers@hotmail.com wrote:
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The crackpot wants proof.
Crackpot now huh?
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You heard it here first.
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Frankly, I've never felt better from someone calling me an idiot or
crackpot before. Thanks..
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No problem. After an ignorant screed like that, you richly deserve it.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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On 14 May 2007 10:30:36 -0700, effacers@hotmail.com wrote:
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http://cires.colorado.edu/science/groups/steffen/greenland/melt2002/melt1992-2002.jpg
Here's a ten year snapshot of greenland. Notice roughly 1/2 has melted
in the last 10 years with half left.
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The is not what it says
http://cires.colorado.edu/science/groups/steffen/greenland/melt2002/
"The total area of surface melt..."
It is showing an increase in surface area which is experiencing melt,
NOT meltED
JT
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The math on this is so simple it's embarassing. But I see people here
need it spelled out in grade two terms: 2-1 is a difference of 1 with
no noticeable increase in ocean levels. So 1-1 is a difference of 1.
Now class, do you expect the ocean levels to be noticeably higher?
Hint the answer is: No.
Now you can go back to playing with your toys. |
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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J. Taylor wrote:
You're confusing the KOOKS!
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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On May 14, 12:05 pm, J. Taylor <nchiw...@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:
AN INCREASE IN SURFACE AREA??
Apparently nothing is increasing, but the level of accumulated
stupidity from the clowns in this thread.
The amount of the polar ice field has receded tremendously over the
past 50 years, but if you refuse to believe this then your view on
this topic is completely nullified by your ignorance. Anyway your
Hollywood-version of history is more entertaining. Keep the laughs
coming. |
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J. Taylor
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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On 14 May 2007 12:20:13 -0700, effacers@hotmail.com wrote:
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On May 14, 12:05 pm, J. Taylor <nchiw...@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:
On 14 May 2007 10:30:36 -0700, effac...@hotmail.com wrote:
http://cires.colorado.edu/science/groups/steffen/greenland/melt2002/m...
Here's a ten year snapshot of greenland. Notice roughly 1/2 has melted
in the last 10 years with half left.
The is not what it says
http://cires.colorado.edu/science/groups/steffen/greenland/melt2002/
"The total area of surface melt..."
It is showing an increase in surface area which is experiencing melt,
NOT meltED
AN INCREASE IN SURFACE AREA??
Apparently nothing is increasing, but the level of accumulated
stupidity from the clowns in this thread.
The amount of the polar ice field has receded tremendously over the
past 50 years, but if you refuse to believe this then your view on
this topic is completely nullified by your ignorance. Anyway your
Hollywood-version of history is more entertaining. Keep the laughs
coming.
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Oh well, to bad your view is not supported by what is in the picture,
or the web page.
And my view is a bit different. The last interglacial period ended
with the West half of Antarctica melting, no reason it should not
happen this time. Also the ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica
show temperature leads and carbon increase follows. The exact
opposite of the what the global warming crowd hold as a foundation of
their belief.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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On May 14, 12:20 pm, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
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effac...@hotmail.com wrote:
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I predict a shortage of hip waders in KT town, 5:1 odds, taking bets. |
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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On May 14, 12:30 pm, J. Taylor <nchiw...@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:
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Oh well, to bad your view is not supported by what is in the picture,
or the web page.
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My view or yours? Who was the one saying an INCREASE ?
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And my view is a bit different.
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I kinda already know that.
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The last interglacial period ended with the West half of Antarctica melting,
Not all? Not 3/4? 1/10th? No data? Video footage? |
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no reason it should not happen this time.
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No reason? You mean "no reason I can think of."
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Also the ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica
show temperature leads and carbon increase follows. The exact
opposite of the what the global warming crowd hold as a foundation of
their belief.
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Belief? What belief? Over forty years of satellite photos are
someone's beliefs or are you just blind? |
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J. Taylor
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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On 14 May 2007 12:42:18 -0700, effacers@hotmail.com wrote:
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On May 14, 12:30 pm, J. Taylor <nchiw...@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:
Oh well, to bad your view is not supported by what is in the picture,
or the web page.
My view or yours? Who was the one saying an INCREASE ?
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http://cires.colorado.edu/science/groups/steffen/greenland/melt2002/
"The total area of surface melt on the Greenland Ice Sheet broke all
known records for the island according to scientists at the University
of Colorado at Boulder. "
The web page!
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And my view is a bit different.
I kinda already know that.
The last interglacial period ended with the West half of Antarctica melting,
Not all? Not 3/4? 1/10th? No data? Video footage?
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Yes data, the sediment under the current ice sheet.
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no reason it should not happen this time.
No reason? You mean "no reason I can think of."
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Really does not matter which, it is still no reason
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Also the ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica
show temperature leads and carbon increase follows. The exact
opposite of the what the global warming crowd hold as a foundation of
their belief.
Belief? What belief? Over forty years of satellite photos are
someone's beliefs or are you just blind?
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We know the planet is warming. That is all the satellite photos tell
us. We know carbon is increasing. We, also, know, from ice cores,
temperature proceeds carbon increase. |
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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"Pat Flannery" <flanner@daktel.com> wrote in message
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Nor should you, since it represents a fundamental lack of understanding of
the situation. If the Arctic ice were to melt, there would be very little
increase in ocean depth. That ice is floating, and thus it has already
displaced the ocean and raised sea levels. The Antarctic ice sheets, for the
most part, are supported by theunderlying rock. If they melt, they will
raise water levels. |
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:08 am Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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On May 14, 12:52 pm, Pat Flannery <flan...@daktel.com> wrote:
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effac...@hotmail.com wrote:
Try more like 1/2" tops. Proof: bring up GOOGLE and click MAPS and
voila: very little ice. You'll see some on and around greenland and
antarctica.
The ice sheet on Greenland is over two kilometers thick on average:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_ice_sheet
That of Antarctica is also around two kilometers thick on average:http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/MaySy.shtml
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2km wow!! Lets see, the oceans are some 11km deep in places and the
oceans cover 141600000 square miles, or 72% of the earth's surface. So
lets see, will a 0.01km to 2km thick slab of ice less than 10% of the
earth's surface slip into a basin 11km deep X 72% global surface
unnoticed? I can't comprehend this.. where's my calculator. It already
has because that much has already melted.
Furthermore, when ice melts, the area it consumes shrinks, thought I'd
put a little icing on the truth.
Again, everyone fails to see that I've already proven that no
noticeable rise will occur if the remaining 10-25% melts. Why? Because
that amount has already fricken melted!! .. and much of it has melted
over the past 30 years. So has the oceans risen that much over the
last thirty years? No. So it's impossible for it to rise all that much
if the remaining ice melts. If you're too dumb not to agree, you need
a better NG thread, there must be a knitting thread online speaking of
"thread."
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If you still don't believe me,
I don't. 
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Partial sentence snip noted. Too scared to include the rest? Sorry if
you can't believe the most basic facts. Good research. Spend more time
thinking next time. Look the word up in the dictionary if you have
to. .. and less time snipping half sentences. |
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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On May 14, 12:54 pm, J. Taylor <nchiw...@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:
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On 14 May 2007 12:42:18 -0700, effac...@hotmail.com wrote:
Yes data, the sediment under the current ice sheet.
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Sediment?? That's your data? And sediment tells you what? Site.
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no reason it should not happen this time.
No reason? You mean "no reason I can think of."
Really does not matter which, it is still no reason
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No, it is still no reason TO YOU. There are reasons, but apparently
you don't want to know about them.
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We know the planet is warming. That is all the satellite photos tell
us.
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No the sat photos also tell people (with eyes (and mind) open) that
most of the ice has already melted.
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We know carbon is increasing. We, also, know, from ice cores,
temperature proceeds carbon increase.
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Get with the program. This discussion is about rising ocean levels. |
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:24 am Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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On May 14, 1:12 pm, "Scott Hedrick" <dinehnmNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
TO FLATHEAD FLANNERY
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Nor should you, since it represents a fundamental lack of understanding of
the situation.
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As well as the rest of the bright scientists here.
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If the Arctic ice were to melt, there would be very little
increase in ocean depth. That ice is floating, and thus it has already
displaced the ocean and raised sea levels. The Antarctic ice sheets, for the
most part, are supported by theunderlying rock. If they melt, they will
raise water levels.
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Nope. Wrong. The fact everyone missed here is that much or most of the
once much bigger global ice shelves HAS ALREADY FRICKEN MELTED!! and
is Manhattan still standing ?? |
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:06 am Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? |
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<effacers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179177852.289390.136920@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
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On May 14, 1:12 pm, "Scott Hedrick" <dinehnmNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
TO FLATHEAD FLANNERY
Nor should you, since it represents a fundamental lack of understanding
of
the situation.
As well as the rest of the bright scientists here.
If the Arctic ice were to melt, there would be very little
increase in ocean depth. That ice is floating, and thus it has already
displaced the ocean and raised sea levels. The Antarctic ice sheets, for
the
most part, are supported by theunderlying rock. If they melt, they will
raise water levels.
Nope. Wrong. The fact everyone missed here is that much or most of the
once much bigger global ice shelves HAS ALREADY FRICKEN MELTED!! and
is Manhattan still standing ??
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Yes, we all missed that SINCE IT HASN'T HAPPENED.
But thanks for playing. I think we all need a good laugh.
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