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Landy
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:36 am    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

"Pat Flannery" <flanner@daktel.com> wrote in message
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Landy wrote:
Why would you think there would be no fresh water?
Did the dinosaurs drink seawater then?


They could excrete excess salt from their bodies at the base of their
eyes.
Ever wonder why tears taste so salty?
That's an revolutionary holdover from that ability.

Pat

Hehe - nice one Pat. Don't tell kT that tears are isotonic though.
cheers
Bill
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

Landy wrote:
Quote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
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Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
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rick++ wrote:

So "normal" seems to be no ice sheets at all.
Then you need to start preparing for much higher sea levels.

Are you prepared for an additional 240 feet of water?

And no fresh water reserves at all anymore?

Why would you think there would be no fresh water?
Did the dinosaurs drink seawater then?

Is this a complete meltdown of the American educational system, or what?

What on earth are you talking about?

The Earth.

Fresh water 'reserves' - ice caps, for a technological society, idiot.

Forget the past, we are entering the Neocene now, today, and tomorrow.

You idiots are pissing it all away. Somehow, I expect as much from apes.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

On Tue, 22 May 2007 17:42:36 -0500, kT <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote:

Quote:
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:V5p4i.51$SJ3.26@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:sOh4i.9$Sx6.8@newsfe03.lga...
rick++ wrote:

So "normal" seems to be no ice sheets at all.
Then you need to start preparing for much higher sea levels.

Are you prepared for an additional 240 feet of water?

And no fresh water reserves at all anymore?

Why would you think there would be no fresh water?
Did the dinosaurs drink seawater then?

Is this a complete meltdown of the American educational system, or what?

What on earth are you talking about?

The Earth.

Fresh water 'reserves' - ice caps, for a technological society, idiot.

Forget the past, we are entering the Neocene now, today, and tomorrow.

You idiots are pissing it all away. Somehow, I expect as much from apes.

And you being, of course, a Time Lord? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:27 am    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

J. Taylor wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 22 May 2007 17:42:36 -0500, kT <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote:

Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:V5p4i.51$SJ3.26@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:sOh4i.9$Sx6.8@newsfe03.lga...
rick++ wrote:

So "normal" seems to be no ice sheets at all.
Then you need to start preparing for much higher sea levels.

Are you prepared for an additional 240 feet of water?

And no fresh water reserves at all anymore?
Why would you think there would be no fresh water?
Did the dinosaurs drink seawater then?
Is this a complete meltdown of the American educational system, or what?
What on earth are you talking about?
The Earth.

Fresh water 'reserves' - ice caps, for a technological society, idiot.

Forget the past, we are entering the Neocene now, today, and tomorrow.

You idiots are pissing it all away. Somehow, I expect as much from apes.

And you being, of course, a Time Lord?

No, I'm just some guy. The trick for you is to bang the rocks together.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

On Tue, 22 May 2007 19:27:27 -0500, kT <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote:

Quote:
J. Taylor wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2007 17:42:36 -0500, kT <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote:

Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:V5p4i.51$SJ3.26@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:sOh4i.9$Sx6.8@newsfe03.lga...
rick++ wrote:

So "normal" seems to be no ice sheets at all.
Then you need to start preparing for much higher sea levels.

Are you prepared for an additional 240 feet of water?

And no fresh water reserves at all anymore?
Why would you think there would be no fresh water?
Did the dinosaurs drink seawater then?
Is this a complete meltdown of the American educational system, or what?
What on earth are you talking about?
The Earth.

Fresh water 'reserves' - ice caps, for a technological society, idiot.

Forget the past, we are entering the Neocene now, today, and tomorrow.

You idiots are pissing it all away. Somehow, I expect as much from apes.

And you being, of course, a Time Lord?

No, I'm just some guy. The trick for you is to bang the rocks together.


Oh yes, just a normal, average guy, but everyone else is an ape, and
this makes perfect sense to you?

Not sure banging that rock you have for a head will ever do the trick.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

Landy wrote:

Quote:
Don't tell kT that tears are isotonic though.
cheers
Y?

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

J. Taylor wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 22 May 2007 19:27:27 -0500, kT <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote:

J. Taylor wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2007 17:42:36 -0500, kT <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote:

Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:V5p4i.51$SJ3.26@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:sOh4i.9$Sx6.8@newsfe03.lga...
rick++ wrote:

So "normal" seems to be no ice sheets at all.
Then you need to start preparing for much higher sea levels.

Are you prepared for an additional 240 feet of water?

And no fresh water reserves at all anymore?
Why would you think there would be no fresh water?
Did the dinosaurs drink seawater then?
Is this a complete meltdown of the American educational system, or what?
What on earth are you talking about?
The Earth.

Fresh water 'reserves' - ice caps, for a technological society, idiot.

Forget the past, we are entering the Neocene now, today, and tomorrow.

You idiots are pissing it all away. Somehow, I expect as much from apes.
And you being, of course, a Time Lord?

No, I'm just some guy. The trick for you is to bang the rocks together.


Oh yes, just a normal, average guy, but everyone else is an ape

You got it. Carbon dioxide, it's so easy, even a cave man can do it.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

Landy wrote:
Quote:
Hehe - nice one Pat. Don't tell kT that tears are isotonic though.
cheers
Bill


That was supposed to be "evolutionary" not "revolutionary" BTW.
Me innate Marxism cut in.
Anyway, here's marine reptiles excreting excess salt:
http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/sciences/Zoology/AnimalPhysiology/Osmoregulation/Osmoregulation.htm
And if you aren't sound asleep after reading that, it's time for
Lunesta. Very Happy
However, that being said, dinosaurs in all likelihood didn't sweat like
mammals do.
(Cut to image of a T-Rex putting Ban Roll-On in its tiny armpits) so the
salt stayed inside until they peed.
Unfortunately we do have salty sweat, which means we have constantly
replenish our salt supply.
When you think about that fact, that's pretty clumsy from an intelligent
design point of view.
We'll do just fine on a seacoast, but send us inland, and we have a
problem. Our only source of salt might well be in the blood of our prey.
Years ago, when I was weather observer out at Jamestown airport, we had
our mascot, a wonderful cockatiel named "Bubbles".
Every night when I went to work, Bubbles was waiting. Open the door on
Bubbles' cage, put your right hand on the entrance, and Bubbles would
climb right up your arm and end up sitting on your right shoulder.
Then Bubbles would go to work, carefully and methodically. Bubbles would
start gnawing the entire right side of your head, neck, ears, scalp,
everything...for around an hour or so. I tried to figure out what the
hell the bird was doing; between its beak and sandpaper-like tongue, the
critter seemed intent on removing the entire outside layer of my skin,
without causing me any discomfort
What Bubbles was doing was getting salt off the exterior of my skin from
my sweat.
All my co-employees were female, and many, many earrings were lost due
to Bubbles pulling the earring's back clasp out of the back of their
right ear, then moving around to the front of their ear, pulling the
earring itself out, and spitting it on the floor. Very Happy

Pat
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
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Quote:
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:V5p4i.51$SJ3.26@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:sOh4i.9$Sx6.8@newsfe03.lga...
rick++ wrote:

So "normal" seems to be no ice sheets at all.
Then you need to start preparing for much higher sea levels.

Are you prepared for an additional 240 feet of water?

And no fresh water reserves at all anymore?

Why would you think there would be no fresh water?
Did the dinosaurs drink seawater then?

Is this a complete meltdown of the American educational system, or what?

What on earth are you talking about?

The Earth.

Fresh water 'reserves' - ice caps, for a technological society, idiot.

Forget the past, we are entering the Neocene now, today, and tomorrow.

You idiots are pissing it all away. Somehow, I expect as much from apes.

Yea right. the idea of towing icebergs into the tropics was given up years
ago
because it's just way too impractical moron. It's not a resource, it's
locked up.
cheers
Bill
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

On Wed, 23 May 2007 03:06:32 -0500, Pat Flannery <flanner@daktel.com>
wrote:

Quote:
What Bubbles was doing was getting salt off the exterior of my skin from
my sweat.

....Dogs and cats do this too, Patrick, as do cows and sheep. However,
there's evidence that rabbits do *not*, for reasons still not exactly
understood.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

Landy wrote:
Quote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:RmK4i.124$293.2@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:V5p4i.51$SJ3.26@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:sOh4i.9$Sx6.8@newsfe03.lga...
rick++ wrote:

So "normal" seems to be no ice sheets at all.
Then you need to start preparing for much higher sea levels.

Are you prepared for an additional 240 feet of water?

And no fresh water reserves at all anymore?
Why would you think there would be no fresh water?
Did the dinosaurs drink seawater then?
Is this a complete meltdown of the American educational system, or what?
What on earth are you talking about?
The Earth.

Fresh water 'reserves' - ice caps, for a technological society, idiot.

Forget the past, we are entering the Neocene now, today, and tomorrow.

You idiots are pissing it all away. Somehow, I expect as much from apes.

Yea right. the idea of towing icebergs into the tropics was given up years
ago
because it's just way too impractical moron. It's not a resource, it's
locked up.

That's exactly where resources are supposed to be, locked up from idiots
like you, who do nothing but squander them in a fit of evil debauchery.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

On Wed, 23 May 2007 10:17:40 -0500, kT <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote:

Quote:
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:RmK4i.124$293.2@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:V5p4i.51$SJ3.26@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:sOh4i.9$Sx6.8@newsfe03.lga...
rick++ wrote:

So "normal" seems to be no ice sheets at all.
Then you need to start preparing for much higher sea levels.

Are you prepared for an additional 240 feet of water?

And no fresh water reserves at all anymore?
Why would you think there would be no fresh water?
Did the dinosaurs drink seawater then?
Is this a complete meltdown of the American educational system, or what?
What on earth are you talking about?
The Earth.

Fresh water 'reserves' - ice caps, for a technological society, idiot.

Forget the past, we are entering the Neocene now, today, and tomorrow.

You idiots are pissing it all away. Somehow, I expect as much from apes.

Yea right. the idea of towing icebergs into the tropics was given up years
ago
because it's just way too impractical moron. It's not a resource, it's
locked up.

That's exactly where resources are supposed to be, locked up from idiots
like you, who do nothing but squander them in a fit of evil debauchery.

Oh boy! Helloooo... anyone home?
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
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Quote:
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:RmK4i.124$293.2@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:V5p4i.51$SJ3.26@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:sOh4i.9$Sx6.8@newsfe03.lga...
rick++ wrote:

So "normal" seems to be no ice sheets at all.
Then you need to start preparing for much higher sea levels.

Are you prepared for an additional 240 feet of water?

And no fresh water reserves at all anymore?
Why would you think there would be no fresh water?
Did the dinosaurs drink seawater then?
Is this a complete meltdown of the American educational system, or
what?
What on earth are you talking about?
The Earth.

Fresh water 'reserves' - ice caps, for a technological society, idiot.

Forget the past, we are entering the Neocene now, today, and tomorrow.

You idiots are pissing it all away. Somehow, I expect as much from apes.

Yea right. the idea of towing icebergs into the tropics was given up
years ago
because it's just way too impractical moron. It's not a resource, it's
locked up.

That's exactly where resources are supposed to be, locked up from idiots
like you, who do nothing but squander them in a fit of evil debauchery.

You're the one that called the ice caps a resource in the first place - I
was the one who found that utterly
beyond belief - hence my original comment. So what are you giving up to
prevent global warming?
Own a car do you? I don't. Buy yourself a pushbike and start practising
what your apparently
preaching.
cheers
Bill
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

On May 23, 2:37 pm, "Landy" <n...@nowhere.net> wrote:
Quote:
"kT" <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote in message

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Landy wrote:
"kT" <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:RmK4i.124$293.2@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:V5p4i.51$SJ3.26@newsfe02.lga...
Landy wrote:
"kT" <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:sOh4i.9$Sx6.8@newsfe03.lga...
rick++ wrote:

So "normal" seems to be no ice sheets at all.
Then you need to start preparing for much higher sea levels.

Are you prepared for an additional 240 feet of water?

And no fresh water reserves at all anymore?
Why would you think there would be no fresh water?
Did the dinosaurs drink seawater then?
Is this a complete meltdown of the American educational system, or
what?
What on earth are you talking about?
The Earth.

Fresh water 'reserves' - ice caps, for a technological society, idiot.

Forget the past, we are entering the Neocene now, today, and tomorrow.

You idiots are pissing it all away. Somehow, I expect as much from apes.

Yea right. the idea of towing icebergs into the tropics was given up
years ago
because it's just way too impractical moron. It's not a resource, it's
locked up.

That's exactly where resources are supposed to be, locked up from idiots
like you, who do nothing but squander them in a fit of evil debauchery.

You're the one that called the ice caps a resource in the first place - I
was the one who found that utterly
beyond belief - hence my original comment. So what are you giving up to
prevent global warming?
Own a car do you? I don't. Buy yourself a pushbike and start practising
what your apparently
preaching.
cheers
Bill- Hide quoted text -

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13 or even 130 teraWatts of energy, as contributed by all that's
humanity, is almost nothing compared to what the raw physics of what
our moon is doing to us.

Start getting used to having 256 teratonnes of h2o within our badly
polluted atmosphere, along with lots of our nifty soot, CO2, methanes
and much worse elements (including radon gas right on the deck), plus
eventually 100 meters worth of much warmer and saltier ocean depths
accommodating mostly jellyfish populated dead zones.

Notice how the Jewish mindset and of similar faith based skewed
thinking doesn't see any problems whatsoever with any of this global
warming fiasco.
-
Brad Guth
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"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: If all the Ice Sheets Melt? Reply with quote

On May 21, 3:03 pm, "Landy" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
Quote:
"rick++" <rick...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:1179756654.316159.221860@r3g2000prh.googlegroups.com...> The current ice age (south pole) started around 27 million years ago.
The one before that was arounf 680 million years ago,

So what happened to the Permo-Carboniferous ice ages?
And the end-Ordovician ones?
But I agree that the "usual" state of Earth is greenhouse rather than
icehouse.
cheers
Bill

Though we have been making a bad situation worse, there's simply not
enough of atmospheric or surface pollution to cause our demise via
greenhouse. Short of setting Earth on fire, I'd give our contribution
as being worth as little as 10% of the GW problem, with perhaps 25% at
most being the case.

If you were a smart enough ET, that was out and about looking for a
spare world to live upon, or even to exploit for all it's worth, as
such would Earth be an attractive planet? (especially with it's nearby
and truly massive mascon of a moon doing it's tidal and other nasty
things)

Our Earth is at least 98.5% fluid, and perhaps only at best a tenth of
the solid is worthy of our living upon or within, although less than
1% of the solid is actually suitable for us humans in the buff. As
such, Earth doesn't seem all that ET friendly, nor hardly woth the
effort of extracting whatever unless it's salt that you're looking
for.

Of our having applied 13 teraWatts or even 130 teraWatts of energy, as
supposedly contributed by all that's humanity, is almost nothing
compared to what the raw applied physics of what our moon is doing to
us.

Start getting used to having 256 teratonnes of h2o within our badly
polluted atmosphere, along with lots of our nifty soot, CO2, methanes
and much worse elements (including lots of new and improved Rn222 as
radon gas right on the deck), plus eventually 100 meters worth of much
warmer and saltier ocean depths accommodating mostly jellyfish
populated dead zones.

Notice how the Jewish mindset and of similar faith based skewed
thinking doesn't see any problems whatsoever with any of this global
warming or spendy energy fiasco. Follow these rusemaster actions back
to the root of their mindset, and as such you'll see a most faith
based collective of what a modern day Jewish skewed mindset is all
about, not that all such faith based folks are the bad guys.
-
Brad Guth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
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