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 Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:20 am Post subject: Re: Lost Cosmonauts on the History Channel |
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:22:22 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
<mooregr_deleteth1s@greenms.com> wrote:
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Seriously, while I side with Jim on this debate, I really do appreciate that
Giovanni can hold up his side of the debate with such class and style. It
really is refreshing in this day and age.
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....And that's the thing about Geo. When he first showed up here,
plugging his website and shilling for the J-C Bros, most of us who
were around then a) proceeded to dissect every instance of the "Lost
Cosmonuts" theories to their sub-quanta elements, and b) chew Geo a
new asshole for having spread this false gospel. But what set Geo not
only above the Guths, Chumpkos, Znkfbas, and whoever that fat retarded
bitch was that was trying to shill for "scott grissom" - a big troll
unto himself, natch - was that he maintained a proper decorum through
it all. He placed himself on *our* level, and I'll be damned if he
hasn't maintained that position even though his beliefs in the J-C
Bros are clearly misplaced.
....The good point about Geo is that we *can* debate about the matter
without the whole thing deteriorating into a chaotic mess. The bad
point is that there's not more like Geo out there, who believe in the
improbable, are willing to stand behind their beliefs, but are at
least halfway willing to entertain the possibility that they're
totally wrong.
Besides, if the J-C Bros were really serious about their theories,
they'd have had Ilona Staller write the intro and sign it with a
kiss.... :-)
OM
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Scott Hedrick
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:54 am Post subject: Re: Lost Cosmonauts on the History Channel |
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"OM" <om@all_trolls_must_DIE.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:22:22 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
mooregr_deleteth1s@greenms.com> wrote:
Seriously, while I side with Jim on this debate, I really do appreciate
that
Giovanni can hold up his side of the debate with such class and style. It
really is refreshing in this day and age.
...And that's the thing about Geo. When he first showed up here,
plugging his website and shilling for the J-C Bros, most of us who
were around then a) proceeded to dissect every instance of the "Lost
Cosmonuts" theories to their sub-quanta elements, and b) chew Geo a
new asshole for having spread this false gospel. But what set Geo not
only above the Guths, Chumpkos, Znkfbas, and whoever that fat retarded
bitch was that was trying to shill for "scott grissom" - a big troll
unto himself, natch - was that he maintained a proper decorum through
it all. He placed himself on *our* level, and I'll be damned if he
hasn't maintained that position even though his beliefs in the J-C
Bros are clearly misplaced.
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We should create an award for Geo- something reflecting that, while he is a
kook, he's a *classy* and honorable one, with style. The I Emulated Geo Tin
Hat with gold highlights and a feather. Geo, of course, not only gets the
first one, he gets a set of peacock feathers.
Speaking of kooky ideas, I just watched NOVA's First Flower. It seems that,
genetically, roses are very close to squashes, and strawberries are very
close to marijuana. Thus, I soon expect to see an industry arise offering
strawberry essence drops for glaucoma sufferers. |
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Scott Hedrick
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: Re: Lost Cosmonauts on the History Channel |
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"Dale Carlson" <drc@oz.net> wrote in message
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How would sending Jim's name and e-mail address with
an invitation to contact him voluntarily be a breach of
their confidence? You didn't mention any names or
anything...
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Shh...he has a team working on it... |
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Dave Michelson
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Lost Cosmonauts on the History Channel |
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
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Seriously, while I side with Jim on this debate, I really do appreciate that
Giovanni can hold up his side of the debate with such class and style. It
really is refreshing in this day and age.
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A less charitable person might conclude that you, Scott, OM have made it
impossible for Gio to recant. Once he admits that the J-C brothers'
claims are gross exaggeration at best and fraudulent at worst, his claim
to fame will disappear.
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OM
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Lost Cosmonauts on the History Channel |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:51:53 GMT, Dave Michelson <davem@ece.ubc.ca>
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A less charitable person might conclude that you, Scott, OM have made it
impossible for Gio to recant.
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....Not really. Even the Pope finally admitted Gallileo was right, and
the Catholic Church didn't collapse because of it.
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Once he admits that the J-C brothers'
claims are gross exaggeration at best and fraudulent at worst, his claim
to fame will disappear.
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....Somehow he's never come across as one who's in it for the "fame" or
"recognition". Geo actually appears to be serious in his beliefs,
although his faith is somewhat misguided and unjustified. Unlike most
trolls, who care less about the fact that their theories and claims
are nothing other than complete and utter bullshit save for the fact
that by sticking to their insanity they get their rocks off
masturbating to our angst.
OM
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Lost Cosmonauts on the History Channel |
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:54:16 -0400, "Scott Hedrick"
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Speaking of kooky ideas, I just watched NOVA's First Flower. It seems that,
genetically, roses are very close to squashes, and strawberries are very
close to marijuana. Thus, I soon expect to see an industry arise offering
strawberry essence drops for glaucoma sufferers.
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....So now we have yet another subliminal meaning to "Strawberry Fields
Forever" :-P
OM
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Giovanni Abrate
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: Lost Cosmonauts on the History Channel |
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Dave,
I am a former test pilot and a VP for an aerospace company. I started flying
in 1971. I have been around for a while, you see. I don't need any fame,
Internet or otherwise and certainly not one by association with anyone. I
know the Judica Cordiglia brothers, their father knew mine, and I firmly
believe that what they claim is true. I have corresponded with people who
were in military intelligence and who confirmed the fact that these events
actually happened (except Ilyushin's flight, which, by the way, was NOT
tracked by the Judica Cordiglia brothers and for which I have not received
independent confirmation). End of story.
Take care,
Giovanni
"Dave Michelson" <davem@ece.ubc.ca> wrote in message
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
Seriously, while I side with Jim on this debate, I really do appreciate
that Giovanni can hold up his side of the debate with such class and
style. It really is refreshing in this day and age.
A less charitable person might conclude that you, Scott, OM have made it
impossible for Gio to recant. Once he admits that the J-C brothers'
claims are gross exaggeration at best and fraudulent at worst, his claim
to fame will disappear.
--
Dave Michelson
davem@ece.ubc.ca
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Jim Oberg
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Lost Cosmonauts on the History Channel |
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"History" as a story nerver ends, it is a dynamic process driven
by personal curiosity, passions, and quest for legacy. As such,
this discussion is a genuine part of that process.
Now, we can move it along even further, Giovanni, if
you pass my name and email along to the people you
corresponded with, or ask them for permission to
posthumously publish their letters, when the time comes.
You really shouldn't sit on that stuff and tease, "I've - got - the -
proo--ooff .. but-I'm-NOT-gonna-SHOW-you-u-u-u-u-u-u..."
That doesn't move the process along at all.
"Giovanni Abrate" <tryphon@adelphia.net> wrote
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I am a former test pilot and a VP for an aerospace company. I started
flying in 1971. I have been around for a while, you see. I don't need any
fame, Internet or otherwise and certainly not one by association with
anyone. I know the Judica Cordiglia brothers, their father knew mine, and
I firmly believe that what they claim is true. I have corresponded with
people who were in military intelligence and who confirmed the fact that
these events actually happened (except Ilyushin's flight, which, by the
way, was NOT tracked by the Judica Cordiglia brothers and for which I have
not received independent confirmation). End of story.
Take care,
Giovanni |
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Giovanni Abrate
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Lost Cosmonauts on the History Channel |
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One of them has been trying to get the story declassified for years, without
success. I am sure he/she would not want it revealed even after his/her
death, without the proper clearances.
The other one thought the matter had been declassified when he spoke to me.
I know from my FOIA request to the NSA that the matter is still
classified.."because its disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause
exceptional damage to the national security." (Direct quote from the NSA
response.
I certainly don't want to get him/her into trouble...
The third person probably reads this NG anyway, so it's up to him/her to
come forth.
I am not teasing, after all the best evidence is on line and is the one
provided by the Judica Cordiglia brothers, and they are not affected by any
NSA restrictions. In the past, I provided the names of people at NASA who
dealt with the Judica Cordiglia brothers in the sixties and someone with the
right contacts at NASA could have tried to trace them (but did not!)....that
would have moved the process right along.....
Cheers,
Giovanni
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"History" as a story nerver ends, it is a dynamic process driven
by personal curiosity, passions, and quest for legacy. As such,
this discussion is a genuine part of that process.
Now, we can move it along even further, Giovanni, if
you pass my name and email along to the people you
corresponded with, or ask them for permission to
posthumously publish their letters, when the time comes.
You really shouldn't sit on that stuff and tease, "I've - got - the -
proo--ooff .. but-I'm-NOT-gonna-SHOW-you-u-u-u-u-u-u..."
That doesn't move the process along at all. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:14 am Post subject: Re: Lost Cosmonauts on the History Channel |
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"Jim Oberg" <joberg@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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You really shouldn't sit on that stuff and tease, "I've - got - the -
proo--ooff .. but-I'm-NOT-gonna-SHOW-you-u-u-u-u-u-u..."
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