Aeronautics Industry Aeronautics Industry    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged!          Aeronautics Industry Forum Index -> Aeronautics Industry View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message kT Guest Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! Oh ... shit. Well, if they miss their launch window, maybe they'll decide to skip Vesta and go directly to Ceres. Wouldn't that be just great! Screw Vesta. The last thing we need is another 'moon'. -- Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator : http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Brian Gaff Guest Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! Any details? Brian -- Brian Gaff - briang1@blueyonder.co.uk Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message news:HwTbi.7$dq7.6@newsfe06.lga... Quote: Oh ... shit. Well, if they miss their launch window, maybe they'll decide to skip Vesta and go directly to Ceres. Wouldn't that be just great! Screw Vesta. The last thing we need is another 'moon'. -- Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator : http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor BradGuth Guest Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! On Jun 13, 7:50 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote: Quote: Oh ... shit. Well, if they miss their launch window, maybe they'll decide to skip Vesta and go directly to Ceres. Wouldn't that be just great! Screw Vesta. The last thing we need is another 'moon'. -- Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator :http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html Obviously they should have spent those extra billions for making DAWN a little more robust and a whole lot faster. Too bad such spendy and time consuming missions couldn't have been efficiently launched away from my LSE-CM/ISS gateway, easily obtaining ten fold the exit velocity from the same amount of rocket mass, as well as for utilizing my impressive Ra-->LRn-->Rn-->ion thrusters. BTW can your nifty simulator give us a 3D interactive look-see at Venus, as if our FOV were situated upon our moon? - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell - Brad Guth Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor BradGuth Guest Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! On Jun 13, 12:00 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote: Quote: On Jun 13, 7:50 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote: Oh ... shit. Well, if they miss their launch window, maybe they'll decide to skip Vesta and go directly to Ceres. Wouldn't that be just great! Screw Vesta. The last thing we need is another 'moon'. -- Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator :http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html Obviously they should have spent those extra billions for making DAWN a little more robust and a whole lot faster. Too bad such spendy and time consuming missions couldn't have been efficiently launched away from my LSE-CM/ISS gateway, easily obtaining ten fold the exit velocity from the same amount of rocket mass, as well as for utilizing my impressive Ra-->LRn-->Rn-->ion thrusters. BTW can your nifty simulator give us a 3D interactive look-see at Venus, as if our FOV were situated upon our moon? - Dawn/Phoenix mission damaged? If our crack wizards miss this launch window, it's going to demand a great deal more deployment boost and/or a greater kicker stage than previously planned. Either that or it's going to have to make for some other target(s). Too bad they don't seem to have a fully operational 3D interactive simulator, as for us minions and village idiots to see exactly what other viable target options exist. - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell - Brad Guth Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor kT Guest Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! Brian Gaff wrote: Quote: Any details? Well, I blobbed it, of course, second, also known as last : http://cosmic.lifeform.org/?p=318 So, it sounds real bad, and I'm really having a bad day, but then Kim Keller comes on, and says it was just a non critical and hopefully superficial gouge on some of the composite array mounting structure, from a dropped wrench of one of the contractors, who has apologized. This is all second hand street talk, clearly there was an incident, but the good news (or lack of news) is that there should be no real delay. I think they are scrambling with this mission after the crane problem. Everybody just calm down, breathe slowly, a new dawn is approaching. I also heard they loaded enough xenon for a possible Pallas visit. -- Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator : http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor kT Guest Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! BradGuth wrote: Quote: On Jun 13, 12:00 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote: On Jun 13, 7:50 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote: Oh ... shit. Well, if they miss their launch window, maybe they'll decide to skip Vesta and go directly to Ceres. Wouldn't that be just great! Screw Vesta. The last thing we need is another 'moon'. Obviously they should have spent those extra billions for making DAWN a little more robust and a whole lot faster. This is the miracle mission. This has to work, or we've got nothing. Quote: Too bad such spendy and time consuming missions couldn't have been efficiently launched away from my LSE-CM/ISS gateway, easily obtaining ten fold the exit velocity from the same amount of rocket mass, as well as for utilizing my impressive Ra-->LRn-->Rn-->ion thrusters. BTW can your nifty simulator give us a 3D interactive look-see at Venus, as if our FOV were situated upon our moon? Yes, Brad, you can do anything you want, and if Venus doesn't work out the way you expected it, you can design your own damn planetoid. Quote: Dawn/Phoenix mission damaged? If our crack wizards miss this launch window, it's going to demand a great deal more deployment boost and/or a greater kicker stage than previously planned. Either that or it's going to have to make for some other target(s). Too bad they don't seem to have a fully operational 3D interactive simulator, as for us minions and village idiots to see exactly what other viable target options exist. There are thousands of them, hundreds of them very very large. Did you ever see Michelle Phillips in the Next Generation? Now that was a great looking ... er ... planetoid. -- Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator : http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Alex Terrell Guest Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! On 13 Jun, 20:38, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote: Quote: Brian Gaff wrote: Any details? Well, I blobbed it, of course, second, also known as last : http://cosmic.lifeform.org/?p=318 So, it sounds real bad, and I'm really having a bad day, but then Kim Keller comes on, and says it was just a non critical and hopefully superficial gouge on some of the composite array mounting structure, from a dropped wrench of one of the contractors, who has apologized. This is all second hand street talk, clearly there was an incident, but the good news (or lack of news) is that there should be no real delay. I think they are scrambling with this mission after the crane problem. Everybody just calm down, breathe slowly, a new dawn is approaching. I also heard they loaded enough xenon for a possible Pallas visit. It was damaged when an English 00 agent broke in through the roof to recover a lost GPS encoder. Moments before, baddy No 3 had told his henchmen to look after the satellite as it was worth a billion dollars, thereby sealing its fate. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor kT Guest Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! Alex Terrell wrote: Quote: On 13 Jun, 20:38, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: Any details? Well, I blobbed it, of course, second, also known as last : http://cosmic.lifeform.org/?p=318 So, it sounds real bad, and I'm really having a bad day, but then Kim Keller comes on, and says it was just a non critical and hopefully superficial gouge on some of the composite array mounting structure, from a dropped wrench of one of the contractors, who has apologized. This is all second hand street talk, clearly there was an incident, but the good news (or lack of news) is that there should be no real delay. I think they are scrambling with this mission after the crane problem. Everybody just calm down, breathe slowly, a new dawn is approaching. I also heard they loaded enough xenon for a possible Pallas visit. It was damaged when an English 00 agent broke in through the roof to recover a lost GPS encoder. Moments before, baddy No 3 had told his henchmen to look after the satellite as it was worth a billion dollars, thereby sealing its fate. No, that's not what I heard at all. Here is a more credible update : http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn12060-dawn-spacecraft-damaged-but-still-set-for-launch.html Now, if this happened on Monday, why are we only hearing about it now? That is the big question on all alert conspiracy minds. -- Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator : http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor BradGuth Guest Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: Re: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! On Jun 13, 12:43 pm, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote: Quote: BradGuth wrote: On Jun 13, 12:00 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote: BTW can your nifty simulator give us a 3D interactive look-see at Venus, as if our FOV were situated upon our moon? Yes, Brad, you can do anything you want, and if Venus doesn't work out the way you expected it, you can design your own damn planetoid. Only things I'd like to design are the likes of POOF City at VL2, that of my LSE-CM/ISS within our moon's L1, and otherwise possibly as to accomplishing the relocation of our global warming moon, as situated all the way out to Earth's L1. Just wondering why not any of NASA's solar system simulators can ever seem to locate Venus as of those supposed Apollo missions. Oddly via those supposed moon EVAs and/or of orbiting that physically dark moon of ours, somehow they've got not one unfiltered Kodak moment of ever including any hint of Venus. Quote: Dawn/Phoenix mission damaged? If our crack wizards miss this launch window, it's going to demand a great deal more deployment boost and/or a greater kicker stage than previously planned. Either that or it's going to have to make for some other target(s). Too bad they don't seem to have a fully operational 3D interactive simulator, as for us minions and village idiots to see exactly what other viable target options exist. There are thousands of them, hundreds of them very very large. But there's no apparent 3D interactive simulator for accommodating such complex orbital mechanics. Perhaps NASA should utilize that nifty one of yours. Quote: Did you ever see Michelle Phillips in the Next Generation? Sorry, I missed that one. - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell - Brad Guth Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor kT Guest Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: Re: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! BradGuth wrote: Quote: On Jun 13, 12:43 pm, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote: BradGuth wrote: On Jun 13, 12:00 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote: BTW can your nifty simulator give us a 3D interactive look-see at Venus, as if our FOV were situated upon our moon? Yes, Brad, you can do anything you want, and if Venus doesn't work out the way you expected it, you can design your own damn planetoid. Only things I'd like to design are the likes of POOF City at VL2, that of my LSE-CM/ISS within our moon's L1, and otherwise possibly as to accomplishing the relocation of our global warming moon, as situated all the way out to Earth's L1. Just wondering why not any of NASA's solar system simulators can ever seem to locate Venus as of those supposed Apollo missions. Oddly via those supposed moon EVAs and/or of orbiting that physically dark moon of ours, somehow they've got not one unfiltered Kodak moment of ever including any hint of Venus. Yes, Brad, Venus is right there, download Stellarium for God's sake. I can see it outside every night too. Planets are so in right now. Quote: Dawn/Phoenix mission damaged? If our crack wizards miss this launch window, it's going to demand a great deal more deployment boost and/or a greater kicker stage than previously planned. Either that or it's going to have to make for some other target(s). Too bad they don't seem to have a fully operational 3D interactive simulator, as for us minions and village idiots to see exactly what other viable target options exist. There are thousands of them, hundreds of them very very large. But there's no apparent 3D interactive simulator for accommodating such complex orbital mechanics. Perhaps NASA should utilize that nifty one of yours. I haven't even written a Ceres module for it yet - not enough data. I'm still working on the getting to orbit part of it. This Dawn thing is big, though, they figure they can fly to and from four asteroids per mission in the future. We just need to get this one mission retired. Ceres is both big and beautiful. Here is an interesting site I ran across while I was researching the 3 um band in Ceres and Pallas : http://www.saharamet.com/meteorite/press/article.html Read the whole story, prospecting parts 1 and 2. -- Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator : http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Brian Gaff Guest Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! And there I was thinking it might have been some egocentric tech etching graffiti into the composite material. Like Fred was ere... Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: briang1@blueyonder.co.uk ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ "Alex Terrell" <alexterrell@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1181765365.016972.298720@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com... Quote: On 13 Jun, 20:38, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: Any details? Well, I blobbed it, of course, second, also known as last : http://cosmic.lifeform.org/?p=318 So, it sounds real bad, and I'm really having a bad day, but then Kim Keller comes on, and says it was just a non critical and hopefully superficial gouge on some of the composite array mounting structure, from a dropped wrench of one of the contractors, who has apologized. This is all second hand street talk, clearly there was an incident, but the good news (or lack of news) is that there should be no real delay. I think they are scrambling with this mission after the crane problem. Everybody just calm down, breathe slowly, a new dawn is approaching. I also heard they loaded enough xenon for a possible Pallas visit. It was damaged when an English 00 agent broke in through the roof to recover a lost GPS encoder. Moments before, baddy No 3 had told his henchmen to look after the satellite as it was worth a billion dollars, thereby sealing its fate. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor BradGuth Guest Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Breaking News : DAWN Spacecraft Damaged! On Jun 13, 5:48 pm, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote: Quote: Yes, Brad, Venus is right there, download Stellarium for God's sake. Don't have to because, I know for a matter of fact that Venus was easily within the FOV from the moon (especially from orbing that physically dark and highly reactive sucker), as our rad-hard and otherwise hocus-pocus Apollo crews supposedly did their moon walking thing, along with those unfiltered cameras having Kodak film with more than sufficient dynamic range for having recorded Venus, as well as a few other items besides mother Earth as situated above that physically dark lunar horizon. BTW our sun is also not providing the raw illumination spectrum of a xenon lamp. Controlling the past is the one and only alternative for the likes of our MI/NSA~NASA. - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell - Brad Guth Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Aeronautics Industry Forum Index -> Aeronautics Industry All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum Aeronautics Industry----------------Aeronautics Industry  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Australian Debt Consolidation Experts medical insurance Wedding Websites Annunci di escort e accompagnatrici a Rimini, Padova, Treviso, in Riviera Adriatica, in Versilia ... 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