Aeronautics Industry Aeronautics Industry    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Name that missile Goto page Previous  1, 2          Aeronautics Industry Forum Index -> Aeronautics Industry View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Herb Schaltegger Guest Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Name that missile On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:04:27 -0500, OM wrote (in article <8jo823l11u6e6cidkljgsbifaat31dk1g4@4ax.com>): Quote: ...What did I miss, and what can we call an "ICJO" award? "Icy-Joe"...Hmmm.... Sounds like a Starbucks drink that didn't quite make it in the marketplace . .. . ;-) -- You can run on for a long time, Sooner or later, God'll cut you down. ~Johnny Cash Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor John Guest Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Name that missile On Apr 16, 4:41 pm, "Jim Oberg" <job...@houston.rr.com> wrote: I'm thinking it's a Sea Sparrow -- Jim Look at the small rear fins, they seem to be smaller than a Sparrow and with squared off tips, although it is hard to tell with the smoke . . . I think it may be a Shrike anti-radiation (radar) missle, which would be an equally, no, perhaps even more stupid choice since it is (was) an air to ground missle, John Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Jim Oberg Guest Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Name that missile Thanks, John -- it does seem to be on an ascending trajectory and the flame looks a lot like the Sea Sparrow, but you're right, the booster fins are unclear. Well, i won't make any authoritative pronouncements, but I will tease about the cover art! "John" <pelchat@charter.net> wrote in message news:1176829835.271913.20260@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... Quote: On Apr 16, 4:41 pm, "Jim Oberg" <job...@houston.rr.com> wrote: I'm thinking it's a Sea Sparrow -- Jim Look at the small rear fins, they seem to be smaller than a Sparrow and with squared off tips, although it is hard to tell with the smoke . . . I think it may be a Shrike anti-radiation (radar) missle, which would be an equally, no, perhaps even more stupid choice since it is (was) an air to ground missle, John Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor robert casey Guest Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Name that missile Jim Oberg wrote: Quote: Thanks, John -- it does seem to be on an ascending trajectory and the flame looks a lot like the Sea Sparrow, but you're right, the booster fins are unclear. Well, i won't make any authoritative pronouncements, but I will tease about the cover art! Photoshop could make that missile look like it's ascending. And if that picture was Photoshopped, then who knows what else was done to make the image look pretty... Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Jim Oberg Guest Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: Name that missile "robert casey" <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com> wrote Quote: Photoshop could make that missile look like it's ascending. And if that picture was Photoshopped, then who knows what else was done to make the image look pretty... photoshop requires minimal techsavviness which the authors clearly lack, and the publisher shows little evidence of... Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor OM Guest Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Name that missile On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:01:45 -0500, "Jim Oberg" <joberg@houston.rr.com> wrote: Quote: photoshop requires minimal techsavviness which the authors clearly lack, and the publisher shows little evidence of... ....And it wasn't me, because I'd have stolen one of Sander's "Lost Von Braun Express Film" rockets :-) OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor David Spain Guest Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Name that missile Jim Oberg wrote: Quote: I'm reviewing Caldicott's new "War in Space" book and would like to verify the identity of a missile shown on its cover -- you can see the cover at http://www.thenewpress.com/index.php?option=com_title&task=view_title&metaproductid=1649 I'm thinking it's a Sea Sparrow -- a really stupid missile to use to illustrate a book on 'space weapons' -- but in this case, you can judge the book by its cover. Caldicott? Exactly what *are* her credentials in this area? Other than being completely wrong about the effects of basing cruise missiles in the UK to offset the Russian's advantage in IRBMs. Which led directly to the ZERO OPTION. Nuclear freeze indeed. Dave Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor David Spain Guest Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Name that missile OM wrote: [snip] Quote: ...What did I miss, and what can we call an "ICJO" award? "Icy-Joe"...Hmmm.... OM So that'd be Jim's sending the winner a 3-day old cup of coffee? Dave Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Jonathan Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: Re: Name that missile "Jim Oberg" <joberg@houston.rr.com> wrote in message news:462543cc$0$19462$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... Quote: "robert casey" <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com> wrote Photoshop could make that missile look like it's ascending. And if that picture was Photoshopped, then who knows what else was done to make the image look pretty... photoshop requires minimal techsavviness which the authors clearly lack, and the publisher shows little evidence of... judging a book by its cover? > Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Henry Spencer Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Name that missile In article <4623df6c$0$19470$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Jim Oberg <joberg@houston.rr.com> wrote: Quote: I'm thinking it's a Sea Sparrow -- a really stupid missile to use... Not a great image, but that looks like the NATO Sea Sparrow, aka RIM-7H, which had redesigned wings and fins to fit in a relatively small box launcher. The earlier PDMS/BPDMS Sea Sparrow was a straight copy of the aircraft AIM-7E, and needed quite a large box to accommodate the fins. The NATO Sea Sparrow -- a joint project of several NATO nations -- had folding wings, but the fins were clipped short and I think didn't fold. The other Sparrow-ish missile, the Shrike, has a slightly different wing shape, by the looks of the only photo I have handy. The one on the book cover definitely looks to have the Sparrow wings. -- spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. | henry@spsystems.net Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor John Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Name that missile On Apr 19, 1:28 am, h...@spsystems.net (Henry Spencer) wrote: Quote: In article <4623df6c$0$19470$4c368...@roadrunner.com>, Jim Oberg <job...@houston.rr.com> wrote: I'm thinking it's a Sea Sparrow -- a really stupid missile to use... Not a great image, but that looks like the NATO Sea Sparrow, aka RIM-7H, which had redesigned wings and fins to fit in a relatively small box launcher. The earlier PDMS/BPDMS Sea Sparrow was a straight copy of the aircraft AIM-7E, and needed quite a large box to accommodate the fins. The NATO Sea Sparrow -- a joint project of several NATO nations -- had folding wings, but the fins were clipped short and I think didn't fold. The other Sparrow-ish missile, the Shrike, has a slightly different wing shape, by the looks of the only photo I have handy. The one on the book cover definitely looks to have the Sparrow wings. -- spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. | h...@spsystems.net Henry, Based on the pictures below, and comparing the wing shapes, I now agree that the missle in the original picture is a Sea Sparrow. Information and picture of the Shirke http://www.hill.af.mil/museum/photos/coldwar/agm-45.htm Picture of the Sea Sparrow . . . being launched from a ship http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/200491821.aspx Take care all John Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Aeronautics Industry Forum Index -> Aeronautics Industry All times are GMT Goto page Previous  1, 2 Page 2 of 2   Jump to: Select a forum Aeronautics Industry----------------Aeronautics Industry  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum 222 Attacks blocked Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group