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Stan Marsh
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

NASA Administrator Griffin says he's not sure that global warming is a
problem...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18964176/

Drugs, dementia, or head injury? Geez!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

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Drugs, dementia, or head injury? Geez!




No, he's in management. That explains it... Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

Stan Marsh wrote:

Quote:
NASA Administrator Griffin says he's not sure that global warming is a
problem...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18964176/

Drugs, dementia, or head injury? Geez!

I think we can honesty say NASA has taken a major PR hit here.

What was that diaper lady's name again?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

"Stan Marsh" <therocketman@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:5DJ7i.19797$KC4.1429@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
Quote:
NASA Administrator Griffin says he's not sure that global warming is a
problem...

Why is that a problem? It might suck for *us* and some species, but it would
be a boon to others. The followup question to *can* we do anything about it
is *should* we do something about it.

With Mars and even Neptune showing signs of warming, yet both totally
lacking in SUVs, seems like at least part of the explanation lies with the
most common factor, which would be the Sun.

We don't even begin to have sufficient data to show causation- still waiting
for those Zimbabwean ice cores, Pat. A lot of folks are mistaking
*correlation* with *causation*.

Rush out right now to replace your incandescent bulbs with green compact
florescents- which you will then have to call the hazmat team to dispose of
later, since they contain *un-*green mercury. 'scuse me while I wait to get
sufficient data to justify the conclusions being claimed.

Expect to hear claims about the mass mercury poisoning of the environment
from those same compact florescent bulbs a few years from now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

On May 31, 8:13 pm, "Scott Hedrick" <ignorantfuck@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
Rush out right now

and listen to *RUSH*!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

"Scott Hedrick" <dinehnmNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Stan Marsh" <therocketman@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:5DJ7i.19797$KC4.1429@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
NASA Administrator Griffin says he's not sure that global warming is a
problem...

Why is that a problem? It might suck for *us* and some species, but it
would be a boon to others. The followup question to *can* we do anything
about it is *should* we do something about it.

Climate change does more than "suck" for humans. It appears to have very
realistic potential to force mass migrations from coastal areas, and loss of
fresh water sources for hundreds of millions, if not billions of people.
The economic impact and human misery caused will be incalculable.

If warming is a boon to other species, what species, and how could that
possibly mitigate the damage to humanity? Hey, Homo Sapiens #1 baby! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

"Stan Marsh" <therocketman@softhome.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Scott Hedrick" <dinehnmNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:NoK7i.75$BV3.89176@news.sisna.com...

"Stan Marsh" <therocketman@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:5DJ7i.19797$KC4.1429@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
NASA Administrator Griffin says he's not sure that global warming is a
problem...

Why is that a problem? It might suck for *us* and some species, but it
would be a boon to others. The followup question to *can* we do anything
about it is *should* we do something about it.

Climate change does more than "suck" for humans. It appears to have very
realistic potential to force mass migrations from coastal areas, and loss
of
fresh water sources for hundreds of millions, if not billions of people.
The economic impact and human misery caused will be incalculable.

If warming is a boon to other species, what species, and how could that
possibly mitigate the damage to humanity? Hey, Homo Sapiens #1 baby! Smile



I'm still undecided if global warming is a bad thing or not.
But hearing Griffin say it was rather surprising.
And rather embarassing as just ..today..President Bush
outlines his own initiative to curb world-wide greenhouse
gasses. I guess the President now thinks we need to
do something about global warming.
He didn't tell Griffin obviously.

How could it be possible that NASA, the primary agency
for monitoring climate change, not be involved in this new
White House initiative for controlling greenhouse gasses?

It should be obvious, this White House doesn't ask
any of their agencies for policy advice.
They inform the agencies.

This White House politicizes everything.
With the results being lousy policies
that fall apart just sitting there.

Just like with the Vision.



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Quote:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

"Jonathan" <write@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Stan Marsh" <therocketman@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:sRK7i.19857$KC4.9274@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

"Scott Hedrick" <dinehnmNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Stan Marsh" <therocketman@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:5DJ7i.19797$KC4.1429@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
NASA Administrator Griffin says he's not sure that global warming is a
problem...

Why is that a problem? It might suck for *us* and some species, but it
would be a boon to others. The followup question to *can* we do
anything
about it is *should* we do something about it.

Climate change does more than "suck" for humans. It appears to have very
realistic potential to force mass migrations from coastal areas, and loss
of
fresh water sources for hundreds of millions, if not billions of people.
The economic impact and human misery caused will be incalculable.

If warming is a boon to other species, what species, and how could that
possibly mitigate the damage to humanity? Hey, Homo Sapiens #1 baby! :)



I'm still undecided if global warming is a bad thing or not.
But hearing Griffin say it was rather surprising.
And rather embarassing as just ..today..President Bush
outlines his own initiative to curb world-wide greenhouse
gasses. I guess the President now thinks we need to
do something about global warming.
He didn't tell Griffin obviously.

How could it be possible that NASA, the primary agency
for monitoring climate change, not be involved in this new
White House initiative for controlling greenhouse gasses?

It should be obvious, this White House doesn't ask
any of their agencies for policy advice.
They inform the agencies.

This White House politicizes everything.
With the results being lousy policies
that fall apart just sitting there.

Just like with the Vision.

Duh-bya's space exploration "Vision" is just like his new climate
initiative. They're both feeble, underfunded efforts to leave a legacy.
I'm pessimistic that either one will amount to a hill of beans.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

"Stan Marsh" <therocketman@softhome.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
If warming is a boon to other species, what species, and how could that
possibly mitigate the damage to humanity? Hey, Homo Sapiens #1 baby! Smile

You're not much of an environmentalist, are you? Why, Al Gore tells us to
worship the Earth!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

"Stan Marsh" <therocketman@softhome.net> wrote in message
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I'm pessimistic that either one will amount to a hill of beans.

He's a politician, which means it smells like the beans after processing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

Quote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18964176/

Drugs, dementia, or head injury? Geez!

Heh heh ... and you obviously consider yourself superior to the head of
NASA. Drugs? Dimentia? Head injury?



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

"Scott Hedrick" <dinehnmNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Stan Marsh" <therocketman@softhome.net> wrote in message
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I'm pessimistic that either one will amount to a hill of beans.

He's a politician, which means it smells like the beans after processing.

True. The benefit will be as long-lasting as the smell. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

On Jun 1, 2:44 am, "Stan Marsh" <therocket...@softhome.net> wrote:
Quote:
Climate change does more than "suck" for humans. It appears to have very
realistic potential to force mass migrations from coastal areas, and loss of
fresh water sources for hundreds of millions, if not billions of people.
The economic impact and human misery caused will be incalculable.

An invasion by giant zombie pirahnas would appear to have a realistic
potential to do just as much harm, with equally incalculable impact.
But it's not likely to happen.

Mark
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

On May 31, 10:08 pm, "Jonathan" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Quote:
"Stan Marsh" <therocket...@softhome.net> wrote in message

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"Scott Hedrick" <dinehnmNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Stan Marsh" <therocket...@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:5DJ7i.19797$KC4.1429@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
NASA Administrator Griffin says he's not sure that global warming is a
problem...

Why is that a problem? It might suck for *us* and some species, but it
would be a boon to others. The followup question to *can* we do anything
about it is *should* we do something about it.

Climate change does more than "suck" for humans. It appears to have very
realistic potential to force mass migrations from coastal areas, and loss
of
fresh water sources for hundreds of millions, if not billions of people.
The economic impact and human misery caused will be incalculable.

If warming is a boon to other species, what species, and how could that
possibly mitigate the damage to humanity? Hey, Homo Sapiens #1 baby! :)

I'm still undecided if global warming is a bad thing or not.
But hearing Griffin say it was rather surprising.
And rather embarassing as just ..today..President Bush
outlines his own initiative to curb world-wide greenhouse
gasses. I guess the President now thinks we need to
do something about global warming.
He didn't tell Griffin obviously.

Yes, the Washington Post today jumped all over that today:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/31/AR2007053101173.html?sub=new

Quote:

How could it be possible that NASA, the primary agency
for monitoring climate change, not be involved in this new
White House initiative for controlling greenhouse gasses?

Good cop/bad cop...

Quote:

It should be obvious, this White House doesn't ask
any of their agencies for policy advice.
They inform the agencies.

This White House politicizes everything.
With the results being lousy policies
that fall apart just sitting there.

Just like with the Vision.

Clearly Bush is more involved with Iraq than he is with space. GW is
also lip-serive to the political world. Don't look at what Bush says
watch what he does.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: NASA's Griffin smoking crack? Reply with quote

On Jun 1, 1:13 am, "Scott Hedrick" <dinehnmNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Stan Marsh" <therocket...@softhome.net> wrote in message

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NASA Administrator Griffin says he's not sure that global warming is a
problem...

...

With Mars and even Neptune showing signs of warming, yet both totally
lacking in SUVs, seems like at least part of the explanation lies with the
most common factor, which would be the Sun.

DAGS "11 year suspot cycle".

It is disturbing that so many people are happy to hop onto that
bandwagon
in the face of contradictory evidence.

Martian warming has been observed over the past 3 Martian years,
during which time Solar activity has been decreasing. Martian
Warming may have been kicked off by slightly higher solar activity
over the preceding cycle, but it has continued despite the reduction
in insolation.

So you've chosen to conclude that solar activity has increased over
the last 6 years, despite direct evidence to the contrary, simply
because you would prefer it to be true, right?

Quote:

We don't even begin to have sufficient data to show causation- still waiting
for those Zimbabwean ice cores, Pat. A lot of folks are mistaking
*correlation* with *causation*.

Yes. Many of Mr Gore's supporters and virtually all of his critics
make that mistake.

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